terrorists in paris. so i don't think it is so much about the refugees as it is about making sure that we're keeping out isis terrorists who are very willing to use any weakness in the system, especially refugee status, to come in not only to this country but also countries like paris and belgium by using that status to get in and gain access to that country. so i think the candidates want to make it clear. this is not about not liking refugees or wanting to help refugees. they want to help them. they don't want to allow terrorists to come in and do what they did in paris. >> mark, do you agree? >> obviously, no one wants terrorists in the country, i think too often we use terrorism or discourses as a pretext. despite the fact we have a range of security checks. a range of departments from the state department, defense