you can believe it at home or accept it, is that maybe all these nefarious things happened and maybe the president shouldn't have asked for the investigation or withheld the aid, but they eventually got the aid. they never announced the investigation. so where's the big deal? >> what did president zelensky actually do to get the aid? the answer is nothing. he didn't do any of the things that house democrats say that he was being forced and coerced and threatened to do. >> some have argued in the president's defense that the aid was ultimately released, and that is true. but only after congress began an investigation. >> again, more of the sparring and the democratic point being, attempted extortion, bribery, whatever you want to call it, is a crime. >> i think mee ia is right, thes all these pieces that democrats are putting in place that show you it's not illegal for the president to withdraw his ambassador or to call back his