we will certainly miss him. >> you hear again, colonel, how personal this is to so many people, you were at his side, to have a black chairman of the joint chiefs and the architect of the very successful gulf war, i would see young faces in the desert light up and what did it mean to them to be such a role mod snell. >> well, wherever we went, soldiers stopped and saluted and let him know how much they cared for him, from privates to presidents, he was someone who you could believe in, you could trust. you could know that he would take you to a good place with an objective in mind, so he was -- he was something very special, not just a black soldier but to soldiers around the world, all services, and he -- he played a big role in making the armed