fruitless, because his of combative nature, and his own conversation, and now kevin mccarthy won't go forward and he wants to be speaker, and if he defies donald trump, many of the trumpians will walk away? >> yes, i think so, jon. i think that this is having something to do with the kevin mccarthy's speaker of the house next year. of course, it is central. he is walking a tight rope, and never the full trust of the hard right like jim jordan and it is essential that he keeps the members in the fold to ensure that he has the votes to become speaker next year. and he is simply not going to risk alienating the sort of the trump jim jordan access by cooperating in any shape or form with this committee. now, the challenge as you have laid out there, does sort of which seems hard to avoid is