biskupic, laura coates and steve black. we can show up on the screen the court breakdown right now. six conservatives, three liberals. the president of the united states with the new pick is not going to change. it's not going to change the picture -- the court thing there, but even if you replace a liberal judge with a liberal judge, each justice has a niche on the court. justice breyer worked with chief justice roberts to save obamacare, the affordable care act. big on first amendment cases. what does the court lose, if you will, of the expertise of stephen breyer? >> john, it's obviously that this is a big gap and justice breyer wasn't just his expertise. he was comfortable crossing the perceived aisle. he was willing to work with justice roberts and chief justice kennedy before he retired. i think one of the questions of a biden nominee is will this person be someone who can forge new alliances with judge justic the right. can he perhaps team up with neil