enthusiastic people into the real voters. >> i would not call it a show, but it is more like a circus, and everybody loves the circus, and the crowds that you are seeing right now at trump's events do provide him and the campaign an opportunity that he is taking advantage of, and for us on the obama campaign, it is to establish a relationship with the prospective voter, and they can turn into the volunteer, and that can be a volunteer to turn into the donor, and we looked at the events online and offline as opportunities to build the relationship. as you said, we were exact how we did that, and every time we had a public event, we were meticulous about getting all of the data that we could on the individuals that we could to follow up with them. and not only that, so for tomorrow night, 500 people in the actual debate arena, and millions watching it on cnn, but from the campaign standpoint, we would organize thousands of house parties to watch the