done in general, the work that they're doing at this very moment that we speak, the men and women are still getting it done out there for us every day. >> so, let me bring paul calen especially since you just - mentioned, cedric, the anecdotal versus the empirical. it may be too early to have empirical data. >> right. >> we are only talking a year or so. so i'll open it up to you two, paul and joey. and these are thorny issues, people don't like to talk about them. the debate is mitigated for fear some will come off sounding racist, et cetera, if they even tackle the other side of the black lives matter issue. and then you have a guy like james comey, the fbi director, coming out and saying this at a very prestigious venue. what practical effect might it have? i'll start with you, joey. >> well, taking it from the beginning, ashleigh, and looking at the statistics that we could evaluate, it's unbelievable, murder statistics. milwaukee up 76%, st. louis 60% from last year.