sacrifice in the short term so we'll be better off in the long term. we're at historically interest rates. 8% of our revenue stream it takes to pay the interest on the debt, that could double, go 2 1/2 times in a matter of months. then where are we? we revisit this conversation. they'll say republicans why didn't you stand stronger and longer. >> i need to talk strategy. i want to know where things go today. do you have any indication the house will vote today. >> i don't know if john boehner wakes up with another new idea. i don't have a new idea i can offer to him this morning. if harry reid decides to move and jam us, speaker boehner has to decide am i going to bring it to the house. >> one key factor is senator ted cruz. i believe you were at that meeting that everyone talked about. >> the secret meeting. >> or not so secret. what are you hearing? where is he? what's he going to do? >> i think he would speak to the