and personal. >> people will say why do i want to let them speak? i don't want to hear what they have to say. you want to understand what's going on. so much of what happens seems senseless when we hear about it. that was a brave thing to do for that german author. i don't know what arrangement was made to get in there. >> i'm sure he might have thought at times he wasn't coming out. it was interesting to see an isis fighter with his identity exposed. >> you'll get to see what they believe and judge what is motivating their actions. we have a situation back here at home there's no escaping. we have trouble in the united states now with the culture of policing and attention. what do we do about it? we have two men coming up on the show who know more about policing and certainly nypd than about anybody. what do they think is the way forward? you're going to want to hear from the city's former police commissioner ray kelly and rudy