big issue. >> the democrats and hillary clinton are the only -- hillary clinton is the only viable candidate now running who supports a pathway to citizenship. that's going to be a big issue. you can't win without the latino vote. >> you don't do it through executive action. i think that was part of what he was saying. is if i'm president of america and you have to reform the immigration system you don't dallas-ft. worth because you don't get your way through executive action at the white house. i would do it differently and consult with congress. i think that's a very big point with conservatives. >> do you think he has a word choice issue? do you think he's having some struggles delineating his positions with the questions he's been asked? he seems to be falling in holes which you're able to explain pretty well i think, but he shouldn't need that at this level of the game should he? >> part of it is when you're running for office and you're in these situations people are going to try to get things that make you look like you're somehow different or unique or not on point. when i listen to him and i think -- >> wasn't a sneaky question and it was coming from a safe