was that there was no requirement whatsoever that the phone companies hold the data for any particular period of time. my fear was they would reduce reduce reduce and render the program ineffective. i think it's an important part of the tool kit. foits not the whole deal. it's like a police officer has a notebook at a crime scene. you say you can't carry the notebook anymore. is that going to eliminate solve crimes? no is it a cool the police officer uses,? yes. i think that's exactly the way this program is. it's an important too many. it was put in place september 11th to fill a gap. i think it's something we ought to figure out a way to be sure it continues to be effective. >> you have the effectiveness issue, does metadata work? do you need it? and then you have the big pendulum swing, where do you go? we had congress woman tu whether