that you're not willing to call it what it is. so i'm not for paunting with a broad brush. we're not at wrar with islam. we are at war with radical islamists. you have to be willing to call it that. if you can't call it that, i don't know how you're going to marshal the energy and the passion and the sacrifice it's going to take to defeat it. >> i'm of two minds about this. >> you have to pick one. that's the what show is about, ryan. wee of two minds. that's why we're here. >> there's a certain political correctness. i talked to jeh johnson, secretary of homeland security about this interview over the summer. you're being politically correct. why don't you say it as matt points out. >> their argument when they go into muslim communities in the united states, that's the first thing that gets the islamic communities back up. in that clip you played of the president, if you want neighbors, friends, people, muslims in america to be on your side and to root out extremists or people who have gone over to