system where companies can prosper and do what companies do and charge what they need to justify their investments but also make those drugs afordable. that's why his case has been such a lightning rod. >> my producer is yelling in my ear that i should use the word allegedly. don't we know that he hiked the price? he hasn't been convicted of price gouging. >> that's where you have to keep the two cases separate. the hedge fund thing is an alleged crime. he is just charged. he's not been convicted. he has definitely raised the prices on all these drugs. but what makes that case so interesting is that it's not at all clear that there's anything illegal or improper about that. the system may allow that. the question there is, you know, my mentor in journalism, michael kinsley used to say, the scandal isn't what's illegal, the