witnesses to the commission of a crime, and they're law enforcement people also, and they can be compelled to testify in front of a grand jury just like anyone whoels has witnessed a crime. >> that will be interesting to listen to. paul callan, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, amara. always nice being with you. we have a quick programming note for you this morning. catch an all-new episode of "the murdochs: empire of influence" as that family saga continues. here's a preview. >> and that brings us back to august 2017 when rupert murdoch invites bob eig eric the head of disney, to have a drink with him in his $29 million vineyard in the hills of bel air. rupert displays something stunning. >> rupert floats the idea of selling 21st century fox to disney. >> and over the next several weeks and months disney made a