we have the real thing with names attached in this impeachment inquiry about behavior that is alarming to large sections of the government. i think it's going to feel familiar in its reaction. and just one other point about trump, i think the difficulty of casting blame on others is how central trump is to the entire operation of the governmnt. the idea that he's got demand. that he is the center point makes it harder to force blame off onto other people. we know the outcome when the investigation starts. >> and we also have george kent testifies that potus wanted nothing less than zelensky to go to the microphone saying investigations, biden, clinton. david, maggie, great to see you. >> thanks. big revelations in the roger stone trial. it's his long-time friend