briefing on ukraine per se. there's been some reporting on that. i want to clarify that. on the other hand, we must -- i bet i sat through 25 hearings, briefings, meetings, probably more on the question of what happened in 2016. in none of those meetings was there ever a hint, a breath, a suggestion, a word that somehow ukraine was involved in the 2016 election in the interference or the influence campaign. it was russia. and it was russia in a systematic, widespread way, and i think thatwhat's happening ise people in ukraine acted negatively when the president during the campaign said maybe crimea should remain part of russia. that would be like us being angry that somebody else took florida. i mean, it was understandable, but that's been blown up into this somehow that ukraine was involved in the 2016