guy's a disaster. he's a disaster. >> that is the former president of the united states admitting or maybe confessing during his saturday night rally that he tried to pressure republican governor brian kemp of georgia to help him overturn the election results there. i want to bring in jeffrey toobin and maggie haberman with the "new york times". to an extent, it's not news that the president said this. he has said things like this before. but he just does it "out in the open" now. there is no shame any more. >> there's no shame. and, you know, this is a widery read article in the "washington post" a couple days ago how we are already in in a constitutional crisis. because basically we have a substantial portion of the population who will not acknowledge that the other side can win an election legitimately. trump said it at the rally. that even in 2022, 2024, we are