he said under the deposition. at some point the transcript will be released. you say he was evasive at times. he returned to form. >> yeah, if you've seen trump in a press, like i think most of us have in the way he responds to the press, it wasn't so different as to the way he answers questions for them. >> what was his demeanor, combative, trying to be more disciplined because he was aware of being under oath and changed his posture, so to speak? >> no, he was like the donald trump we have seen in the press. he was at times going on ad-libbing about things. but and many times being evasive and being combative. >> and what really stood out to you? what word for you, the headline so to speak for your case that came out of this. >>le wiell, i can't talk about specifics right now. the transcript will come out eventually and maybe at that point you and the others will be able to see many of the things