>> this is former president trump once again -- he's telegraphing to people who support him, go ahead and break the law, i will pardon you. this is abuse of pardon powers. he's not even the president. so trump is continuing to divide the country, trying to become relevant. i totally disagree, of course, with where he's going. in fact, i am one of the sponsors of a bill that would prevent the abuse of the president's pardon powers. >> look, the justice department and merrick garland said he'll investigate the january 6th insurrection as high as it goes. at this point, how much do you approve of what you know of the investigation? do you feel like he's going far enough publicly? do you think he should be investigating donald trump? >> for all we know, he may be investigating donald trump because merrick garland has said that nobody is going to be