in the constitution. madison cawthorn can say whatever he wants, and often does. this is not the best application of this particular law. but it was put on the books for a reason. we do know some of the thresholds. civil majority to impose, two-thirds to overturn when it comes to congress. two-thirds is written in the statute. that's how you have ex-con fed rats serving in congress when they first tried to take the seats. >> what congress needs to do is pass a law saying here's how the fourteenth amendment works because there is a due process problem. people have to know if they will be kicked out of office under the fourteenth amendment. what's the process? what am i charged with? do i get a hearing, a trial? >> the people who passed this law made it clear it was designed to apply to future insurrection attempts. >> and the fact that mitch mcconnell is calling this an insurrection, explicitly calling