by 20. we are winning independent voters by double digits and that's the formula that you need to be able to beat biden and the democrats. we are not getting a mulligan on 2024. you either go, you get the job done, or you don't and so i will get the job done. >> reporter: and that's about as explicit as he has been, john. the other candidates aside from asa hutchinson and chris christie just really are not aggressively going after the former president. so that really sets the stage for tonight when we have almost all of them here, as you mentioned, they're each going to be giving about ten-minute speeches, pitching themselves to iowa voters. what we're going to be watching is do any of them start to change their strategy here? does anybody start to directly go after former president donald trump who hasn't before or do they really stick to their stump speeches? i obtained a memo from the super pac that is supporting former vice president mike pence who has strugd ld to really gain traction in this crowded primary