sainte-paul group of people. -- a sainte-paul group of people. -- a small group of people. there is a huge difference. there is a case from last year called u.s. vs. jones in which the court actually said that it's one thing to gather a small amount of meta information, in that case it was location information, over a small period of time, a short period of time and quite another thing to gts it over a along period of time involving many people. so i think there is a dwiemps i difference between a discreet amount of information and infinite amount of information, which the government is collecting here. >> when you look at it. no matter where you fall on the political spectrum the bushed a penstration's requests for fisa material have dwarfed, have been dwarfed by the obama administration. rudy guiliani said publicly as a conservative republican, this is the kind of tool i wanted. to be able to target toor. so in your estimation, you have