>> only in terms of strategy. you asked earlier, who are the winners and losers in this deal? democrats won and republicans lost. there's nothing in this deal. nile admitted it. there's nothing in this deal for republicans to look at and get excited about. what is it, a conference committee to readdress the budget entitlements? why should i have any sense of optimism about a conference committee we've done how many times over the past several years that's produced what? the only time it produced anything is sequester when everybody is scrambling as fast as they can to undo the sequest sequester. it was a mistake because it wasn't going to accomplish the goal of defunding or dismantling in some small amount obama care. once again, wolf, if nile is right -- i agree with many of his conclusions. $17 trillion in debt. we have to get spending under control. how are we going to do it? these moments of shutdown and debt ceilings provide leverage. they are real, legitimate tools. but separate -- separate legitimacy from strategy. can it accomplish it?