has come up. people say at the end of this, assad has got to go. now you have the french foreign minister. you have the french speaking in language that's getting a little bit confusing. they say there needs to be a ground force here. wherever russia talks about that, they mean a syrian ground force. now france seems to have opened the door at least a little bit to that. >> right, the question of what to be done with assad is one of the questions that has bedeviled the coalition. that's also one of the contributing factors to this, a very complex conflict. the fact that russia and turkey, even though they're both anti-isil, are also on different sides of the war with respect to assad. the thinking with respect to assad going that assad is the root cause of the conflict. so you can't actually solve the problem of syria, the problem of isil's rise, without solving for ass assad, but he gets very complex when you get to the question of, what happens after assad falls? a lot of people fear that the