trump was not invited to this event by erick erickson. this might have been an opportunity for some of the other candidates to break out with the conservative base here in georgia. we heard that donald trump made his way into this conversation. what's the willingness you see from these candidates to do that, to at least make a turn coming into the debate next week? >> we're just not seeing it. with donald trump making the decision, which from a cold, hard political calculation probably makes sense for him to skip this first debate, probably skip the second debate that fox is hosting. i think his calculation will be different in the debates in the early states. that puts the ball in the court of the other candidates. they have the capacity to make him regret that decision if they use his absence to make a case against him that he's not there to rebut.