outside the levees are protected since katrina. there's much more anything that now we have a bigger and better levee system here that smog of a storm of the degree of at least a 3 will protect us from levee overtopping tapped make sure people are as safe as possible. >> there were a number of evacuation orders, mandatory and voluntary. do you feel enough of those orders in the areas where they're most crucial were heeded by people? >> well, you're hearing from the smaller parishes that some people have left. i know there was some frustration with the hol officials for people who stayed behind. when you hear the sheriffs and mayors talk about they would leave if they weren't obligated to stay. you the other thing, you impair our ability to help. in the city of new orleans, i feel like there's a lot of people who have voluntarily