country. somehow it's not important and we need to open the economy by getting people out of isolation and paying less attention to making sure they don't harbor the virus when they go back to their jobs and their families. >> there's always testing, tracing and the vaccinations, three-prong strategy. always has been and will be, as we move forward. dr. reiner, thank you so much. we appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me, john. from british socialite to sex trafficker, a dramatic fall from grace for ghislaine maxwell. she was found guilty for grooming and using girls for her pedophile jeffrey epstein. maxwell is facing a 60 year-long sentence. given her age, she could die in prison. >> reporter: it was a momentous day for survivors of abuse by jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell, after she was found