heinous and cruel manner? and i think to many people, unfathomable. once we now know about the life insurance policy, once we now know about the internet searches, about child-free living, and we also now know about the fact that the judge highlighted, wow, he gets into a car with an overwhelming stench of death, and still drives several minutes without opening up the windows, without stopping. if that didn't kick something in his head as a reminder his child is in there, that is significant. as a former prosecutor, i have smelled the smell of death. i can tell you, brooke, it is something you never forget. it's just -- it's overwhelming. it's nausea-inducing. and so i think his behavior now on that day, that clarity that -- those details we know, that is a really significant, significant piece of evidence. >> knowing he got away for lunch and the smell of death in his car, he put the light bulbs back