it's like wearing a seat belt. you're lessening the odds. >> you have to even with gun control and advocates will say it's people that kill people. you make them widely available and it's not just the good people that are going to get them. it's also people who don't have good intentions. they are also going to have equal access. it takes one moment, one snap to be pushed over the edge and it doesn't matter. that's why we were making the point yesterday even though this area is a gun-free zone, it only matters to people who have no intention of carrying a gun. you have to think about that. >> basically, the issue is there's no stronger support of the second amendment than yours truly. however, everyone i know is in lock step with this. it doesn't mean people who are crazy have that right. there's a due process issue. if you follow due process and make sure a person is psychologically able to own a