>> i don't think so. i don't think they were expecting an immediate conversion by the kenyan leadership. but framing the argument the way he did he was trying to introduce an idea into the kenyan dialogue. by equating gay rights to the u.s. struggle for racial equality was the most powerful framing he could have made for this in an african context both because of the emotional resonance of the idea and it doesn't come across as the u.s. lecturing from a position of superiority. he kind of grounds this in our own struggles on many fronts over a long period of time. this is actually something he was introducing sbro the bloodstream that without expectation of immediate success but trying to reframe the dialogue in a way that may not play out fully for years. >> reframing the tie log then the president was asked about