to be the democratic rival for the white house. >> what other democrats were overseeing attempts to rout out corruption in ukraine? >> that's not the answer to my question. >> it was joe biden. >> what other individuals of corruption is the president focusing on that have no political affiliation? >> he will rout it out wherever he finds it. this is -- the reason why joe biden even came up in passing in this conversation, which by the way it's not a cover-up when you release the transcript. if you actually read the transcript, president zelensky was saying we've had some bad, corrupt people. we're routing them out and president trump said, yes, i've heard about this because it's very terrible and that's what president trump said. he said it sounds terrible to me when you have a vice president of the united states running point on corruption -- routing out corruption in ukraine. his son sits on a board making $50,000 a month. and the prosecutor looking into that natural gas company -- >> except the chronology is not