the pandemic, the covid-19 pandemic is a good one. for years, experts were warning about the dangers. when it finally broke out, people downplayed the significance. when it exploded, we were caught short. it turns out everyone is vulnerable. that's the same thing with our cyber vulnerabilities. there are a wide range of steps we can take. there's no one single drug that we can take. it's not a disease that has a miracle drug we can cure. it's more of a chronic condition. as a result, we need to manage it. we're not going to be able to solve it with one thing. there are a number of steps we can take. >> it sounds like different companies have to take different steps. are they all equipped to do that when you look at the colonial pipeline and the jbs meat packing security issues that