the mainstream media and now instead of being critical of mainstream media, you're seeing him go on channels like cnn, msnbc, while criticizing fox. quite the turn for desantis. >> yeah, did he wait too long to say this? and the other question i have is he does have a point. when you look at the trump town hall that took place the other night on fox, it was basically like an infomercial. and it was enabling trump skipping these republican debates, which he's been doing this whole time. how does that serve the voters? how does that serve anybody in terms of figuring out who should be the next president? >> yeah, desantis is 100% right. fox news is not honest when it covers trump. it's largely a propaganda outlet for donald trump and it's been like that since the 2016 election. and so he has, he certainly has a point. it's rich coming from him given that he's contributed to the power of right wing media by you know in the past relentlessly attacking mainstream