juarez. some say they don't care. they just want to go and turn themselves in because they don't know if it's not title 42 they might come up with another policy that might prevent them from going in. many of them know if they are deported they might be sent back to their countries. many don't like that idea. >> all right. gustavo valdez, thank you for your reporteding in mexico. the january 6th select committee prepares ready to criminally refer former donald trump to the justice department. the panel is also set to ask the doj to consider charges of obstructing an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the federal government. a new chapter in this legal saga for the former president. with us to talk about this and what it all means is former federal more shan wu. if merrick garland, the attorney general, gets these referrals,