question, again, if true that they all trained in raqqah, which would mean that you would have 24 trained fighters. >> right. >> perhaps the question before might have been, maybe the ones who actually went and did the attacks themselves were the trained fighters. and the others were supporting. >> yes. and you've heard from the eyewitnesses, one that you just spoke to, they're describing the methodical and skilled way that these attackers carried out murder. right? shooting calmly, coldly, reloading, shooting again. we heard that from the very -- >> he said look he, he met one of the terrorist's eyes three separate times. three separate times. and never once did he see emotion cross that man's face. >> well, it's chilling. >> as he shot anybody who moved. >> it speaks to the nature of these attackers. it also speaks to the training that it seems they had. again, to hearken back to "charlie hebdo" you remember that video, as you saw them leaving the "charlie hebdo" offices, the skill that they handled their weapons, and here you see this again. and this is, again, the idea that they trained in syria, that is something that other