effort largely led by women, heavily by democrats but republicans as well, about trying to find a way to create a paid family leave system in america that so many other western countries have. the details, what could it be, 12 weeks of paid family leave, what biden originally talked about, something smaller like four weeks, how much would the benefit be, would it be up to $4,000, less, how would it be paid for, pay in advance like a social security system or would it be a benefit? where would that money come from? all of those discussions have been under way for months as part of this plan. manchin doesn't want to do paid family leave through reconciliation. and gillibrand has been having conversations behind the scenes not just trying to understand where manchin is at but with some key republican women, lisa murk murkowski, like a handful of people just to understand what are the chances for a bipartisan