it plays on it. >> one thing, it's good, period. >> it's good. >> what's your perception on sort of the difference between how people perceive mississippi versus what you know as someone born and raised here and has a lot of roots here? >> i think people believe the narrative instead of actually coming here and developing their own reality. >> and what's that narrative? >> that we are obese, uneducated racist people. >> do you feel an obligation to be a cheerleader? do you sort of go around mississippi explaining people, you know what i mean? >> yeah. when i moved to new york, the first thing roy wood jr. told me is don't change. keep your mississippi flavor. keep talking about where you're from because people want to learn about where you came up. >> so mississippi in 20, 30 years? >> mississippi has some good. we're progressing. we just took the rebel flag down that is a huge deal.