at 1:00 in the morning. not the alarm, but the delay, entry delay. i looked scrolled through it, family room. i said to my wife, family room, thinking maybe my daughters are coming in. i strolled downstairs in my underwear just to see what's going on. i get down there and this guy comes out of my kitchen at me. i detained him. i think i did what any man would do or what most men would do, which is whatever you got to do to protect your family. >> absolutely right. >> i had to do that. i'm just glad that i was able to stop and you know, let the authorities take care of the rest and not try to take justice into my hands. >> not as glad as the burglar was. >> with me, you break your face with an uzi. >> on that bombshell, let's take a short break. let's come back. i want to talk to you about survival in a notoriously risky business. you two are great survivors. i don't know how you've done it. and about what you do with that