>> yeah. the real life guy -- >> in the movie he represents a bunch of different characters. >> in fairness to danny -- >> he ate the goldfish? >> yes. >> when you watched that happen? >> it was -- >> no doubt, these things do happen on wall street. they just do, and insanity happens. >> i get gordon gecko, is that what it's about really? it's about who can go the furthest? >> i think that sort of behavior isn't endemic to wall street, it's endemic to large groups of men who are drinking or doing any sort of substances in a frat house, where people -- it's the herd mentality, where people individually never do these things, you put 50, 100 in one spot, and all of a sudden, the rules of behavior start to change. >> did you have a chimpanzee in