passports, it would seem that interpoll has a database of all stolen passports that a billion people, i think, have travelled in the last year alone without any check being made against that list. it seems preposterous, it seems extraordinary that none of these countries have no automatic way of checking if people are traveling with stolen passports against the interpol list. how difficult is it to set up a system like that? >> i don't think it's that hard given the fact that interpol has made this database very available. and here in the united states, we use it extensively to do these passport checks. but you have to look at the rest of the world. because even though, even after 9/11, we tightened up all of our terroristic type surveillance and security protocols here, but the rest of the world didn't really adopt that level of stringent protocols that we've done here.