any passenger on any of the flights i've ever been on going into the cockpit. used to happen when i was a kid. used to be young kids would go in. but i haven't seen that happen. so i find it quite shocking. not shocking that these two young women were invited in, but the fact that anyone is going into cockpits. what do you think of it from a security point of view? >> oh, piers, you don't even see the bringing small children up to the cockpit that used to happen before a plane took off. you actually -- that's a rarity anymore. a child may be invited to stand outside the cockpit and look in and go back to their seat. but never when it's in flight in a post 9/11 certainly in the united states. most americans will find this very shocking. one of the things we haven't mentioned, if you look at the map that we've sehown the graphc the plane is diverted and transponder goss ofs go off, th hour and ten minutes. this plane had only been up in the air less than an hour from