if you can get a hydrophone, a microphone that works underwater near that thing, you will find it. and it's very reasonable to me that the chinese space authorities said well they're going to find it. we don't need to release this image. but then two thirds of the passengers were chinese nationals. after awhile somebody -- i'm going to throw this out in middle management said we got to release these images. >> it may be possible they have much better images. >> oh, yes. >> which they didn't want people to know because it would reveal too much of their machinery. >> i've spent a lot of time with ufo images. when you look closely at that, it looks like the triangular or the three dots are somewhat de-tuned. now, this is speculation. you can't help it. >> it wouldn't make any difference. they've given the coordinates of where they were taken. therefore it wouldn't hamper now the search. we need to get a microphone near that. >> jim tillman, you're not the only pilot and aviation expert i've heard in the last few hours saying you just don't believe the pictures that we can see albeit blurry ones could be