with, is just crazy and look, i hear you. look, i'm i'm basically on your page and all this stuff. like when you talk about this oh, it changes what is in your gut and your serotonin that's the kind of thing that i'm always talking get about on this show when people think i have two heads is what i mean, but it's so hard to talk about health because it's like, oh, what are you talking about? serotonin in your gut, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. but maybe a yak, and you know what? that's, what health is. it's, it's this interconnectedness that goes on in our body absolutely people do not want to hear it. but, but it's not always evident are on the surface what causes one thing when you do one medical intervention, what happens downstream, like whack-a-mole right. >> and it begins these problems that require new drugs to treat those issues but again, but what okay. >> so let's look at how it works and the reason i want to look at how it works is because i want to encourage people that eating less will work. >> what is it doing? what but they know that i hear