i said to him don't you have any remorse and he didn't understand the word remorse so i said sadness. >> i'm curious. you mention how -- you're in this position where you have a lot of different jobs. this interview is great example of how you are able to pot a lot of those plants with this one interview. obviously you're associated with cbs. your pbs show is sort of your baby and has been for decades. is there part of you that is particularly proud or excited that in fact that format in a couple of instances has proven more preferable for the interview subject in the sense there aren't a lot of shows that are ad free that you can go for the full hour and as you are seeing, now some interviews subjects are picking that show for that very reason. that has to be a big source of pride for you. >> it is enormous. i can't tell you. i've been doing this program with a very loyal and distinguished group of people for more than 20 years.