>> the counterterm of political deline when something bad happens in the world, 3e78 still know where to go. however, they might want to stream it rather than watch on linear cable. zhuzh, how do you view the landscape changing with cuomo's departure? >> it is a huge thing and that's a big part of the story, brian. chris cuomo, as a performer, as tall ept in the 9:00 p.m. time slot, did a terrific job. he did a terrific job. he had almost a million viewers a night. he was competitive in the toughest primetime time slot there is. that complicated, i'm sure, for cnn when they were dealing with him because he was so successful as a performer in that time slot. listen, i have separation anxiety about -- not msnbc, but i have separation anxiety about brian williams leaving at 11:00 because it means so much. we're losing big stars in this medium and i don't know what the impact is.