bizarre, because every easter in norway, they celebrate by reading crime novels, crime fiction, watching murder mysteries. is there meaning in this or is this more commercialization of the holiday? >> it's intriguing. in part, with norway, it has to do with the long holiday there and the unexpected commercial success of a novel in 1923 or something like that. but actually, you can tie it to themes in christian thought in easter. namely that god sets things right. that's the belief in christian theology that god will set things right. that god vindicated christ after that horrible death he suffered. in terms of christian thought, the resurrection of the dead, the resurrection of christ and the final judgment is a sense in which hope happens, because everyone gets their day in court, as it were. >> so what if you're not christian? what if you don't celebrate easter? what is the takeaway that, you know, those should take from the holiday? >> well, easter really is a fundamental christian holiday. there's no christianity without easter sunday. but beyond that, we can say, regardless of religious