one of the things that i'll just share a combat experience i had when i was commanding northern iraq in 2007, we hit a key target that really unraveled the financial elements of the beijing oil refinery and how it was supporting al qaeda. we not only gautgot the guys that were involved in that but we got the flow. when you get the flow and find out who is being connected and who else is involved and how the operational commanders are becoming a part of this, what funds and all through the money laundering line it is significant. it was the key thing that happened to me in 18 months in iraq during that particular tour. >> general hertling any individual within the isis command whose death, whose execution, such as we're now discussing in syria could break the back emotionally momentum wise for isis is that just not the way they function?