experience the new way to sell a car. my next guest is the sort who the late tom wolf would have described as a man in full. he's distinguished himself as a musician, an actor, a sirius xm programmer, a political activist and now author. he also happened to be everybody's favorite underboss, just ask bruce springsteen or tony soprano. stevie van zantd dt just releasa memoir. stevie, so great to have you here. i'm thinking kamala harris could learn a thing or two from you. what does it take to be an effective underboss or chief