prosecution. by the way, this is not some esoteric conversation. if i think of bannon and manafort, how do they fit into what you're describing? >> those are two recent examples. both were charged or convicted federally. donald trump pardoned both of them on his way out of office. what happened in both instances was state prosecutors picked up the charge. paul manafort went really poorly because state prosecutors in new york charged him after he had been pardoned and the state courts said you can't do that. that's not fair play. steve bannon was charged federally, then pardoned by trump, and then recharged by the state. that prosecution remains ongoing. this makes my point. why should paul manafort and steve bannon be reprosecuted but not any of the hundreds of other people pardoned by donald trump? pick your president. are they being picked out simply because they're seen as politically odious by certain prosecutors? i think that's the only answer and i think that's unacceptable.