north korea on this. >> all right, pamela. thank you very much. of course, dan rather and fari zakari said one thing that can't be is ignoring it. the critical role of pope francis between brokering cuba and america. made a personal appeal say, please, begin talks. the vatican hosted secret meetings between the two countries. joining me is raymon and bwtn, art religion commentator, father edward beck. great to have you both with us. let me start with you, father beck. you know, the pope playing a role here. i guess some history that has happened once before when it came to the soviet union in a sense, how significant is this when was brokering a foreign